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that ambassador rice was speaking based on talking points, provided by the cia. and that the fundamental error in those talking points was corrected by us when we became -- when it became clear that new information shed new light on what happened, and this was not a case as republicans charged again and again, that ambassador rice had, at the direction of the white house or anyone else, said what she said about our understanding that there had been protests. that was the intelligence that she was provided. >> jay, quickly, before you go, on the ap story where the justice department has been investigating, the associated press, i have the feeling if you were back in our old job at "time" magazine, you may be one of the complaining chorus in the white house press corps about that being overbroad, reaching for too much, and that this is exactly what the press has to fear in this kind of situation with the government. >> well, i addressed this, lawrence, as you know. i was asked about this from the podium. and i can tell you two things. as a citizen, i believe it's i
that ambassador rice was speaking based on talking points, provided by the cia. and that the fundamental error in those talking points was corrected by us when we became -- when it became clear that new information shed new light on what happened, and this was not a case as republicans charged again and again, that ambassador rice had, at the direction of the white house or anyone else, said what she said about our understanding that there had been protests. that was the intelligence that she...
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this new push stems from revelations that the cia's original talking points used by ambassador susan rice in the days after the attack had undergone significant edits by senior administration officials. >> for the president's spokesman to say well there were only words or technical changes made in the e-mail is a flat-out untruth when we know any reference to act of terror or al qaeda were removed from those talking points and it was done at a deputy's meeting just before susan rice went -- >> would you call this a cover-up? >> i'd call it a cover-up. i would call it a cover-up in the extent that there was wi willful removal of information which was obvious. >> he said untruths by the way. he did not use the word lie. >>> former defense secretary robert gates defending the administration's handling of the attacks in libya. >> based on everything i've read people really didn't know what was going on in benghazi contemporaneously, and to send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment was or threat was without having any intelligence in
this new push stems from revelations that the cia's original talking points used by ambassador susan rice in the days after the attack had undergone significant edits by senior administration officials. >> for the president's spokesman to say well there were only words or technical changes made in the e-mail is a flat-out untruth when we know any reference to act of terror or al qaeda were removed from those talking points and it was done at a deputy's meeting just before susan rice went...
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report revealing cia's role thwarting a terror plot. they call that article a serious leak. >> this is among, if not the most serious, it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk. and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that, i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the white house maintains it had no prior knowledge of the a.p. investigation. >>> for the second time in as many weeks, a military member in charge of protecting victims of sexual assault is facing allegations of it himself. he is accused of forcing one soldier into prostitution. and for sexually assaulting at least two others. the sergeant first class has been suspended. and no charges have been filed. >>> meanwhile, defense secretary chuck hagel is ordering all sexual assault personnel in all services to go through a new training and screening program. this, as a
report revealing cia's role thwarting a terror plot. they call that article a serious leak. >> this is among, if not the most serious, it is within the top two or three, most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk. and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who is responsible for that, i think required very aggressive action. >> holder recused himself from the matter because of a conflict of interest. the...
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it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad reporting in the last week. >> yes, thank you. on friday when there was e-mails obtained, actually no, e-mails shown to republican congressional staffers who have an ax to grind who they be paraphrased them. >> who then passed on to the press, passed on to jonathan carl of abc news and passed on inaccurate summaries that the white house was playing politics. >> paraphrases that appeared in quotes. >> this signals that the white house itself thinks there's nothing there, but they poured fuel on the fire. they looked at a news cycle in which they've got th
it was a cia outpost with diplomatic cover. what you see in the e-mails, state being like oh, no, you don't, cia, don't put this on us, this was your facility that you have to defend. >> and god knows what went on before that. >> president obama called it a side show which was being incredibly generous. this story, the fact we are talking about it eight months later, the crafting, editing of basically a pr release for members of congress is amazing. and that's based on very bad...
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the general counsel said cia said let's be careful, folks. the fbi and the people doing the investigation don't want us talking about who we think might be responsible. and then later on, there is an anti-smoking gun. a memo on the 14th which was the day before susan rice went on tv from a guy named matt olson who is a long time anti-terrorism guy. he is the head of the national anti-terrorism center. he said at this point, we're not aware of any actionable intelligence that this attack was planned or imminent. the intelligence community is combing through before and after to determine the full extent of who was involved. i dotted there is some evidence in here that the state department was covering themselves because they had some warnings about possible problems along these lines. but it doesn't seem to implicate hillary clinton and it certainly doesn't match the narrative that this was all somehow a political cover-up of what actually happened on those days. so i'm glad the white house released the reports. we're going to pore through them
the general counsel said cia said let's be careful, folks. the fbi and the people doing the investigation don't want us talking about who we think might be responsible. and then later on, there is an anti-smoking gun. a memo on the 14th which was the day before susan rice went on tv from a guy named matt olson who is a long time anti-terrorism guy. he is the head of the national anti-terrorism center. he said at this point, we're not aware of any actionable intelligence that this attack was...
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that's manipulating the cia to get the truth. >> the cia can't stand up for itself and get the facts, saying, these are the facts? >> the fact is, there was a fact witness, his name was ambassador stevens. he said greg, we're under attack to his number two. that was the definitive statement from the ambassador on the ground before he was murdered. you have a fact witness. and you follow that up with fact witness after fact witness. so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real truth is, the people who were there in tripoli and in benghazi knew this was a terrorist attack from the get-go. that's been said under oath. and that's the reason that we need to know more about how nin ning -- things got changed. >> chairman, my reporting of the immediate aftermath of this talking to administration officials is that ci a director david petraeus made it clear when he briefed top officials that there was a spontaneous element to this, that it was not completely known that this was a terrorist attack right away. you don't give any credence to the notion that there was some fog of war, that
that's manipulating the cia to get the truth. >> the cia can't stand up for itself and get the facts, saying, these are the facts? >> the fact is, there was a fact witness, his name was ambassador stevens. he said greg, we're under attack to his number two. that was the definitive statement from the ambassador on the ground before he was murdered. you have a fact witness. and you follow that up with fact witness after fact witness. so to blame the cia is a convenient truth. the real...
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is the cia trying to cover it. we also now know that one of the two facilities attacked was a cia annex and what role did that have in the attacks and what the security situation was in this compound are questions that have not been asked publicly by republicans on the hill and we don't have answers to those. >> is this certainly something more stemming from interagency issues going back and forth about what could be talked about? we know that petraeus got on the record saying what are we talking about? >> what this document dump showed is that the cia was much more involved than we believed. the senior administration officials stressed that the talking points were changed even quite a bit within the cia before they got to the other agencies and before they got to the white house even. i think david raises a lot of good points in the cia's role. republicans were quick to rush and defend the cia in order to hurt the state department. so now the cia's role should get more scrutiny. >> it has been a wild week in washi
is the cia trying to cover it. we also now know that one of the two facilities attacked was a cia annex and what role did that have in the attacks and what the security situation was in this compound are questions that have not been asked publicly by republicans on the hill and we don't have answers to those. >> is this certainly something more stemming from interagency issues going back and forth about what could be talked about? we know that petraeus got on the record saying what are we...
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the biggest presence was in a completely cia operation and they were relying on the cia for security. so, of course, as they work out the talking points, the question becomes, who is to blame for the absence of the security and the cia is saying, not us, we're not responsible for consulates and the state department is saying it has to be. >> steve, do you believe ultimately the white house made this decision we're then going to limit information even more so? >> i think all white houses do that. >> knee jerk -- >> well, this white house, but i would say the bush/cheney white house engaged in the same kind of information withholding on a variety of issues. people may not remember that now and it's one of the problems emdemic of executive branches who become obsessed with not only secrecy, but not wanting information out and worrying about the risk. they are trying to coordinate and synthesize a story. put them out. >> say we don't know yet. >> some interesting revelations that were very compelling. in my view, doesn't change, in my mind, what would have been likely on the ground. and y
the biggest presence was in a completely cia operation and they were relying on the cia for security. so, of course, as they work out the talking points, the question becomes, who is to blame for the absence of the security and the cia is saying, not us, we're not responsible for consulates and the state department is saying it has to be. >> steve, do you believe ultimately the white house made this decision we're then going to limit information even more so? >> i think all white...
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learn this may have an a cia outpost? >> there are two different facilities there. let me just say this. as far as the consulate situation is concerned and where the ambassador was, there was a steady string of reporting. this was a dangerous part of the country. benghazi was a particularly dangerous place. the british left because of it. if you were going leave that place open, you better have enough security there and security there was inadequate and ability to respond to the attack was inadequate and that falls on the state department and my biggest fears is the people that made that decision are still making those decisions now for our outposts around the nation. >> do you support the law by senator schumer? >> i haven't read it or understand the details of it. i'm concerned about what happened to the associated press and i'm concerned what i think was an abuse of power at the department of justice as well. i'll need to read that law before i can give you a hard opinion on it. >> all right. senator marco rubio, repub
learn this may have an a cia outpost? >> there are two different facilities there. let me just say this. as far as the consulate situation is concerned and where the ambassador was, there was a steady string of reporting. this was a dangerous part of the country. benghazi was a particularly dangerous place. the british left because of it. if you were going leave that place open, you better have enough security there and security there was inadequate and ability to respond to the attack...
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so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are questions that go to motivation. i know that ambassador rice went on every morning show and said this was a result of a youtube video. this was not a terrorist attack. it was frankly told to us in a closed door meeting in congress by hillary clinton, too. as a pilot in the military, i went to survival training and the first thing they tell you, your country, just know your country will be move heaven and earth to come get you and it appears in this case the country didn't move haven nor earth to can get them. the administration said we had
so the cia was super aggressive. all the talking points were reduced to mush and politics was inserted into it. i don't think we should necessarily say this is politics intruding on a cia pure operation. >> congressman, don't you see the muddle in all of in that it's not so clearly watergate as some republicans allege? >> look, i'm not out to try to bring anybody down. i just want the answers. i look at a couple of things. number one, who i think chaed the talking points? these are...
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they say that a cia officer was detained on supposed suspicions of spying after he attempted to recruit a russian secret agent. he was under the guides of a diplomat and written introductions and a large sum of money when he was detained. sounds like a tom clancy novel. to minnesota where later mark dayton will sign the same-sex marriage bill into law. the house passed it 75-79. wettings between same-sex couples can be as early as august 1st. florida senator's marco rubio's super park will defend on gun control. ayotte was criticized in her state. she say mother and a former state attorney general and knows how to be tough on crime. i have to say i don't remember a candidate running an ad to help someone i hope will endorse him should he run in 2016. governor chris cristy is explaining where his campaign aired a negative ad. she said i would have run a purely positive campaign and he will finish it. the latest ad is called out for raising taxes. the second tv ad and part of an $800,000 media purchase. >> politics is a family business. john kerry's brother will be secretary of commerce a
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timing suggests the covert investigation was to determine who leaked details about a cia operation in yemen which foiled a terrorist plot. and while people like rnc chairman reince priebus suddenly emerge from hiding to call for the attorney general's head on a platter, holder, himself, said today he recused himself from the decision to seek those media records to avoid any conflict of interest. but that he did support the investigation into a dangerous leak. >> it is the top two or three most serious leaks that i've ever seen. it put the american people at risk, and that is not hyperbole. it put the american people at risk. and trying to determine who's responsible for that, i think, required very aggressive action. >> and as mr. holder prepares to be grilled by the house judiciary committee wednesday, it's worth noting this whole investigation was called for by members of congress such as senator john mccain. >> i call on the president to take immediate and decisive action, including the appointment of a special council, to aggressively investigate the leak of any classified informa
timing suggests the covert investigation was to determine who leaked details about a cia operation in yemen which foiled a terrorist plot. and while people like rnc chairman reince priebus suddenly emerge from hiding to call for the attorney general's head on a platter, holder, himself, said today he recused himself from the decision to seek those media records to avoid any conflict of interest. but that he did support the investigation into a dangerous leak. >> it is the top two or three...
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this was an attack on a cia operation house and the cia was heavily involved with the state department. could you really have defended this more rigorously without -- they were involved with intelligence gathering. could this have been any different? tom pickering and his team said not really. and this back and forth between the cia and state department. how much is the cia working its usual game or also protecting the operational security of going after the people who had killed its own people. that's where i think the investigation still has some room for maneuver. what was that post-attack discussion going on, what was at the heart between the state department and cia? >> you've been shaking your head here, joe. let's stick to this question of how it was portrayed. i watched susan rice on television and i thought she was great but i was looking at it from a total political voupoint view. i said that's a soldier perhaps audition for a big job of secretary of state and she just won it. i didn't know the details. i saw her putting the best light on a situation that was strong and reall
this was an attack on a cia operation house and the cia was heavily involved with the state department. could you really have defended this more rigorously without -- they were involved with intelligence gathering. could this have been any different? tom pickering and his team said not really. and this back and forth between the cia and state department. how much is the cia working its usual game or also protecting the operational security of going after the people who had killed its own...
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in fact, there's almost an antismoking gun, which is the e-mail from the general counsel of the cia, who at one point explicitly writes, i know there's a hurry to get this, but we need to hold it long enough to ascertain whether providing it, this is the original talking points which did have information about al qaeda, which did talk about libya being a wash in weapons and that this being likely an attack by militant extremists, but whether providing it conflicts with the expressed instructions from national security staff, d.o.j., fbi, that in light of the criminal investigation, we are not to generate statements with assessments as to who did this. that sort of sets the ball in motion in terms of scrubbing out all relevant details about who was behind the attack from the talking points. then you put on top of that, that very revealing sort of bureaucratic knife fight between the state department and the cia in which state department officials are taking umbrage at the idea that there were cia warnings about the threat of a terrorist attack. clearly, the cia was trying to push that
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that the cia had infiltrated an al qaeda plot to blow up an airliner. the bomb was a more advanced version the so-called underwear bomber attempted to use on christmas day in 2009. here was nbc news reporting at the time. >> this is a remarkable success for the intelligence agencies of the united states and its allies. and here's why. they managed to insert a critical informant into the very heart of the terror group that's considered the number one threat to the united states. al qaeda's offshoot in yemen. >> reporter: administration and intelligence officials say by the time this most recent plot was in its final planning stages, the u.s. and its allies were able to follow it in detail. what the terrorists in yemen did not know at the time these officials say is that the person they chose to be the suicide bomber was actually an informant, someone who had agreed to cooperate with an ally intelligence service. members of congress declined to be specific but praised the cia and the overseas counterparts. >> this was incredibly good intelligence work. th
that the cia had infiltrated an al qaeda plot to blow up an airliner. the bomb was a more advanced version the so-called underwear bomber attempted to use on christmas day in 2009. here was nbc news reporting at the time. >> this is a remarkable success for the intelligence agencies of the united states and its allies. and here's why. they managed to insert a critical informant into the very heart of the terror group that's considered the number one threat to the united states. al qaeda's...
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allegedly trying to recruit a russian for the cia. in a scene right out of the cold war, 29-year-old ryan fogle, a low-level diplomat, allegedly caught with a spy's tool kit. wigs, sunglasses, maps, money. even a letter offering his russian contact up to $1 million a year. quote, to discuss your experience, expertise and cooperation. that's instructions for opening up a gmail account. the russians released fogle to the u.s. embassy. he'll probably be sent home. on twitter, the u.s. ambassador had no comment. at washington's popular spy museum, a former cia spy says it happens all the time. >> even the disguise material, which people have sort of charteled about, i've used d disguise. it can work. >> reporter: the russians call the incident provocative. secretary of state kerry was meeting with his russian counterpart in sweden, presumably not swapping spy stories. >> you see those wigs? a letter telling -- something. >> the wig, the letter. >> something amiss with that. you okay this morn? >> all right. a late night. chris christie wa
allegedly trying to recruit a russian for the cia. in a scene right out of the cold war, 29-year-old ryan fogle, a low-level diplomat, allegedly caught with a spy's tool kit. wigs, sunglasses, maps, money. even a letter offering his russian contact up to $1 million a year. quote, to discuss your experience, expertise and cooperation. that's instructions for opening up a gmail account. the russians released fogle to the u.s. embassy. he'll probably be sent home. on twitter, the u.s. ambassador...
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why did he want to put a flag up over the cia operation? thank you, michael crowley. thank you, great reporting, jonathan. we're going to be right back after this. to treat my low testosterone, i did my research. my doctor and i went with axiron, the only underarm low t treatment. axiron can restore t levels to normal in about 2 weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these symptoms to your doctor. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prostate symptoms; decreased sperm count; ankle, feet or body swelling; enlarged or painful breasts; problems breathing while sleeping; and blood clots in the legs. common side effects include skin redness or irritation where applied,
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that the cia, the leaders at the cia, very much agreed with the assessment of the state department and the white house that they were content that the final talking points were not scrubbed down in any way. that they believe that those did accurately nonstra lly no lly d assessment of what took place at that time on september 11th of 2012 at the mbenbenghazi diplom facility. initially referred to as a consulate. one of the specific changes referred to a stylistic at the time. we saw -- we have now copies of all 12 of the talking points. and the e-mail conversations that took place behind the scenes. there are e-mails from the cia director at the time, david petraeus, the deputy director, mike morrell. as well as e ma-mails written b top people at the white house as well as members at the state department. >> you mean there's been some revision now in what we know to be the case, that ansar sharia, the al qaeda group in south africa was somehow erased? take that one. the initial version of the talking points to be used by susan rice referenced ansar sharia, al qaeda group in north afric
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why did he want to put a flag up over the cia operation? thank you, michael crowley. thank you, great reporting, jonathan. we're going to be right back after this. i even wrote a play about that. my symptoms were a pain in my abdomen and periods that were heavier and longer than usual for me. if you have symptoms that last two weeks or longer, be brave, go to the doctor. ovarian and uterine cancers are gynecologic cancers. symptoms are not the same for everyone. i got sick...and then i got better. help the gulf recover, andnt to learn from what happenedg goals: so we could be a better, safer energy company. i've been with bp for 24 years. i was part of the team that helped deliver on our commitments to the gulf - and i can tell you, safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge safety equipment and technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all our drilling activity, twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. safety is a vita
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included by the cia. two references to the al qaeda were removed by intelligence community, not the white house and the cia. and three, the heart of your question, what we were trying to do at the time was get it right based in a very challenging environment with shifting information at the same time to protect the invet grate of the inve investigation that was going to happen to ensure that we brought justice to the people who committed this heinous act. >> the phone record for the a.p. is an issue. the attorney general will stand by the white house fully? >> the president has faith in attorney general holder. our cardinal rule is we don't get involved in independent investigations, and this is one of those. as general principle, we want to balance, national security leaks are dangerous. people that put the lives of our intelligence officers, our military at risk. but, two, we have to do it in a way in a balances freedom of press, which is why the president called on congress to pass the media shield law
included by the cia. two references to the al qaeda were removed by intelligence community, not the white house and the cia. and three, the heart of your question, what we were trying to do at the time was get it right based in a very challenging environment with shifting information at the same time to protect the invet grate of the inve investigation that was going to happen to ensure that we brought justice to the people who committed this heinous act. >> the phone record for the a.p....
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that investigation is linked to the leak of information about a cia operation in yemen that stopped a terrorist attack. as many as six a.p. reporters who worked on that story were among those targeted by the government. and in a letter to attorney general eric holder, the a.p.'s president writes, in part, there can be no possible justification for such an overboard collection of the telephone communications of the associated press and its reporters. we regard this action by the department of justice as a serious interference with a.p.'s constitutional rights to gather and report the news, end quote. while the white house says it had no knowledge of the seizure, the obama administration has taken significant steps in recent years to investigate the disclosure of classified information. coming up on "morning joe," we'll get more on the a.p.'s response, with executive editor kathleen carole. >>> president obama stayed out of the irs scandal until yesterday. the president addressed the agency's role in targeting organizations with the words tea party in their name and some others that had
that investigation is linked to the leak of information about a cia operation in yemen that stopped a terrorist attack. as many as six a.p. reporters who worked on that story were among those targeted by the government. and in a letter to attorney general eric holder, the a.p.'s president writes, in part, there can be no possible justification for such an overboard collection of the telephone communications of the associated press and its reporters. we regard this action by the department of...
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the cia disputed who was in charge. at the end of the day, it was the deputy cia director morale who took out a lot of language whose deletion republicans object to. by the way, every iteration of the talking point from the first to the last included the assertion originally from the cia that the assault on the facility had originated from an anti-american demonstration. and a lot of people have said, well, the white house just made that up, it was a convenient narrative. that's what the intelligence community was saying from the get-go. susan rice had no role in the talking points. she was totally shafted. they sent her out with these things that she played no part in. she read them and missed the chance to be secretary of state as a result. >> marc l marco rubio was on the daily run down and was asked about security and benghazi. here is what he said. >> the security they had there was inadequate. the ability to respond to the attack was inadequate. that falls on the state department. my concern is the people who made
the cia disputed who was in charge. at the end of the day, it was the deputy cia director morale who took out a lot of language whose deletion republicans object to. by the way, every iteration of the talking point from the first to the last included the assertion originally from the cia that the assault on the facility had originated from an anti-american demonstration. and a lot of people have said, well, the white house just made that up, it was a convenient narrative. that's what the...
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in an investigation that appears to be related to ap reporting on the cia busting up an al-qaeda bomb plot a few years ago, the justice department has notified the ap that at least 20 of their phone lines including numbers of their reporters were swept up in a dragnet by the justice department. two months worth of phone records were obtained by the fbi. it is over and done with. when the ap published that story about a year ago about the bomb plot, the response on the right was kind of a mini version of the torches and pitch forks that came out in the 2000s. but in this case because it's a democratic president, the outrage on the right was directed at not just the reporters, it was against the government. they were alleging that the administration doesn't care enough about classified information being leaked. if they really cared, they would freaking investigate it. they would chase this thing down. >> what the president ought to be saying is that this is very damaging to the country. and we're going to do everything we can to get to the bottom of it, whether it involves my white hous
in an investigation that appears to be related to ap reporting on the cia busting up an al-qaeda bomb plot a few years ago, the justice department has notified the ap that at least 20 of their phone lines including numbers of their reporters were swept up in a dragnet by the justice department. two months worth of phone records were obtained by the fbi. it is over and done with. when the ap published that story about a year ago about the bomb plot, the response on the right was kind of a mini...
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because it started in may of last year with this scoop from the ap that the cia had foiled an al-qaeda suicide bomb plot being planned around the anniversary of osama bin laden's death, the plot being orchestrated by an affiliate in yemen that involved an upgrade of the underwear bomb in detroit on christmas day in 2009 and get this. that the fbi actually had the bomb in its possession, had managed to get its hands on the bomb and was examining it to see whether it could have passed through airport security. the ap did not publish this when it first had the information because intelligence operation was still underway. so if he pulls the story and they do report on the plot only after they learn the white house itself planned to release the information in a public announcement. the ap's report was published one day ahead of the white house's planned announcement. now, while this all sounded like a good news kind of story, they managed to get the ball, right? the fact the ap got a hold ahead of time and the cia was saying the operation was not incomplete, that got capitol hill worried.
because it started in may of last year with this scoop from the ap that the cia had foiled an al-qaeda suicide bomb plot being planned around the anniversary of osama bin laden's death, the plot being orchestrated by an affiliate in yemen that involved an upgrade of the underwear bomb in detroit on christmas day in 2009 and get this. that the fbi actually had the bomb in its possession, had managed to get its hands on the bomb and was examining it to see whether it could have passed through...
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and cia military move pt? >> that a good question. right now the group is under pressure but most of it is from drones and airstrikes. but the yemeni government right now, we have to remember that arab spring, in egypt meu barry goes to prison. sulla didn't lose, he just stepped down from being the president. he is still a political figure. there is all of these tensions, behind the scenes maneuvering between the different factions and the yemeni government doesn't have complete control over large portions of the country right now. >> gregory, i know you are a yemen expert. not necessarily a guantanamo expert. but if you -- if something was able to be worked out an these 59 guys were shipped from cuba to home to yemen like the yemeni government is arguing for, do you think that would ehe is not blly be the key to closing guantanamo. >> it would be i think a large step towards closing guantanamo. you i think there is a bigger issue, and that is keeping people indefinitely detained outside the legal framework. and so president obama is
and cia military move pt? >> that a good question. right now the group is under pressure but most of it is from drones and airstrikes. but the yemeni government right now, we have to remember that arab spring, in egypt meu barry goes to prison. sulla didn't lose, he just stepped down from being the president. he is still a political figure. there is all of these tensions, behind the scenes maneuvering between the different factions and the yemeni government doesn't have complete control...
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not apparently for the cia but for noern western intelligence service. the reason that we know that is why the records from 20 phone lines and associated press bureaus in d.c. and new york and hartford and congress and all these reporters' personal phones and everything all ended up in the hands of the justice department even though we supposedly have a free press in this country. when it was reported a year ago that a plot to blow up a u.s.-bound plane had been thwarted in yemen with be one of the details that the ap reported at the time was that the actual bomb from that plot not only hadn't been detonated on that plane, but the actual bomb had ended up in american hand. it was at the fbi bomb lab at quantico. being analyzed. juicy detail. right? hey, wait a minute, how did we get the bomb? it was that detail that led to the ultimate story that this bomb plot had not just been caught at the gate by an extra good pat-down or something. the bomb plot had been foiled by a double agent, somebody on the inside of that al qaeda group who al qaeda thought was
not apparently for the cia but for noern western intelligence service. the reason that we know that is why the records from 20 phone lines and associated press bureaus in d.c. and new york and hartford and congress and all these reporters' personal phones and everything all ended up in the hands of the justice department even though we supposedly have a free press in this country. when it was reported a year ago that a plot to blow up a u.s.-bound plane had been thwarted in yemen with be one of...
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and there are internal problems in the cia. mike morel, the deputy, and petraeus disagreeing about whether al qaeda references should have been left in. to try to spin it, that we had won the war on terror against al qaeda or as the white house claims, it was simply trying to eliminate confusing references before the fbi had begun investigating. as an outsider, a bystander, you have no stake in this. what do you think? >> a combination of both. i think there were those in the administration that wanted to minimize it was a terrorist attack because the president by prior statements saying we are winning that war. i think it was a mistake to put that out. yes, al qaeda has been weakened but it is like a cancer and the cells continue to spread in various places at various levels and it is a long term commitment. terrorism is not going away. to the extend they tried to say this is not terrorism, a mistake was made. on the other hand. it is clear that the fact is that the issue being missed here is that why did the cia not have bett
and there are internal problems in the cia. mike morel, the deputy, and petraeus disagreeing about whether al qaeda references should have been left in. to try to spin it, that we had won the war on terror against al qaeda or as the white house claims, it was simply trying to eliminate confusing references before the fbi had begun investigating. as an outsider, a bystander, you have no stake in this. what do you think? >> a combination of both. i think there were those in the...
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it was a cia office in benghazi. we did not want to advertise that. that is why the ambassador was there, and w we did promise this was going to be the most open and transparent administration in history. i think liberals and conservativeves would acknowlede the pmise has not been kept. >> this thing got off track by the critics. first of all, susan rice s at fault. shwas misleading the american people. she was not doing ything of the sort. this is something that came to her. she got a copy of the talking points and used them. she should have said to them, this is not in my job description. but she sold tse talking points. the other thing is that it was not of the consulate.-- not a consulate. this is why they were fighting over in the talking points, it was a cia operation. when the cia put langge in the talking points, the state department said this was your they took that out. the only political thing was a reference to congress reacting to that statement. >> whoho also worked with the bh administration. the washington post said it follows after wh
it was a cia office in benghazi. we did not want to advertise that. that is why the ambassador was there, and w we did promise this was going to be the most open and transparent administration in history. i think liberals and conservativeves would acknowlede the pmise has not been kept. >> this thing got off track by the critics. first of all, susan rice s at fault. shwas misleading the american people. she was not doing ything of the sort. this is something that came to her. she got a...
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i don't understand why the investigation isn't focused on the cia and state and security reasons. it seems clear to me the cia is somehow -- they're escaping this more than any other part. >> they are arguing and have been arguing since before the debate with mitt romney, we all watched on television, that this administration covered up an act of terrorism to get re-elected. that's their main point. did they or didn't they? >> that should be the focus. my guess is we find out that is not the case. the problem is because the administration mishandled the talking points, the message, they have allowed the republicans to take advantage of that and shift the focus to -- >> and define if a fifine it an- >> dennis mcdonough, chief of staff to president, dan pfeiffer, jennifer pamier trying to figure out how to get the one issue behind them? >> they're assuming this is going to get behind them. this is no big deal. it will blow over. >> let's move on to something. i'm convinced just studying politics people are more concerned about their own lives than something over in libya and they're
i don't understand why the investigation isn't focused on the cia and state and security reasons. it seems clear to me the cia is somehow -- they're escaping this more than any other part. >> they are arguing and have been arguing since before the debate with mitt romney, we all watched on television, that this administration covered up an act of terrorism to get re-elected. that's their main point. did they or didn't they? >> that should be the focus. my guess is we find out that...
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published that story a year ago about the bomb plot being busted up by the cia, the response on the right was kind of a mini version of the torches and pitch forks that came out against the "new york times" reporters back in the mid-2000 but this time the outrage on the right was directed against not just the reporters, no, no, it was against the government. republicans alleging that the government was leaking to these reporters on purpose for the obama administration's own political gain. they were alleging that the administration doesn't care enough about classified information being leaked. it helps them when it leaks. if they really cared about it, they would freaking investigate, it right? they would find out who was leak information to these reporters. they would chase this thing down. >> what the president ought to be saying is that this is very damaging to the country, and we're going to do everything we can to get to the bottom of it, whether it involves my white house or wherever in the intelligence community. >> well, we certainly need to have an investigation of what has happe
published that story a year ago about the bomb plot being busted up by the cia, the response on the right was kind of a mini version of the torches and pitch forks that came out against the "new york times" reporters back in the mid-2000 but this time the outrage on the right was directed against not just the reporters, no, no, it was against the government. republicans alleging that the government was leaking to these reporters on purpose for the obama administration's own political...
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received these e-mails months ago, didn't say a word about it, didn't complain, confirmed with the cia director right after that. and then last week a republican source provided to john carl of abc news a doctored version of an e-mail. y you know they're getting desperate here. >> you have the president who claimed it was called an actor terror and the administration in terms of publicly of an interview he gave to cbs, in addition to what is going behind the scenes is doing his level best to take out reference to a particular terror group involved, to evidence of prior warnings of our security. there was an effort to either downplay this, critics would say, or to be very cautious at a time when a lot of information seemed to be known. >> if you look at the e-mails, they tell you three things that are very important that undermine all the republicans allegations. first that the caallegations we not included. two references to the al qaeda were removed by intelligence community, not the cia and what we were trying to do was get it right based in a very challenging environment with shifti
received these e-mails months ago, didn't say a word about it, didn't complain, confirmed with the cia director right after that. and then last week a republican source provided to john carl of abc news a doctored version of an e-mail. y you know they're getting desperate here. >> you have the president who claimed it was called an actor terror and the administration in terms of publicly of an interview he gave to cbs, in addition to what is going behind the scenes is doing his level best...
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on friday we learned the cia talking points went through 12 rounds of changes with the heavier than usual previously thought involvement of the state doe apartment and the white house. that it was outlined in a series of e-mails. here's what the president had to say about it all today. >> the whole issue of this, of talking points, frankly throughout this process has been a sideshow. the e-mails that you allude to were provided by us to congressional committees. suddenly three days ago, this gets spun up as if there's something new to the story. there's no there-there. and the fact that this keeps on getting churned out, frankly, has a lot to do with political motivations. we've had folks who have challenged hillary clinton's integrity, susan rice's integrity, mike mullen and tom pickering's integrity. it's a given that mine gets challenged by these same folks. they've used it for fund-raising. >> was the president right? is the issue of how the talking points were changed a political sideshow? u.s. congressman michael turner is on the oversight and government reform committee which held
on friday we learned the cia talking points went through 12 rounds of changes with the heavier than usual previously thought involvement of the state doe apartment and the white house. that it was outlined in a series of e-mails. here's what the president had to say about it all today. >> the whole issue of this, of talking points, frankly throughout this process has been a sideshow. the e-mails that you allude to were provided by us to congressional committees. suddenly three days ago,...
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it is cia. this is what is going on is not a relevant point. >> i think we've reached a real sad stage in been gazay. i want to be very clear. i will say this today on "the cycle." there is an abuse of power in benghazi. the abuse of power is the complete exploitation and politicalization of this strategy by some members of the republican party in the house. that is outrageous. and we know that because at the very time that they are supposedly investigating this, accusing the white house of as the president said today, some sort of weird three-day political conspiracy where it would be hidden but only for a few days and then they would acknowledge it was terrorism, while they're doing that, the national republican election commission, committee, excuse me, is fundraising off benghazi and they moved the target. it is disgusting. it has gone totally out of control and it is also sad because, and i don't say this just to beat up. i think it is absolutely true that we have to investigate these irs c
it is cia. this is what is going on is not a relevant point. >> i think we've reached a real sad stage in been gazay. i want to be very clear. i will say this today on "the cycle." there is an abuse of power in benghazi. the abuse of power is the complete exploitation and politicalization of this strategy by some members of the republican party in the house. that is outrageous. and we know that because at the very time that they are supposedly investigating this, accusing the...
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it was speculated the cia has used the same wig sup plier over the last 30 years. or maybe it's the same wig. >>> president obama is standing by the justice department's use of secret subpoenas to investigate potential leaks by members of the government. during a news conference yesterday, the president told reporters there must be a balance between the first amendment and national security. >> u.s. national security is dependent on those folks being able to operate with confidence that folks back home have their backs. so they're not just left out there. high and dry. and potentially put in even more danger than they may already being. and so, i make no apologies. i don't think the american people would expect me as commander in chief not to be concerned about information that might compromise their missions or get them killed. >> the president says he has complete confidence in eric holder, dismissing calls for his resignation. >>> and the president addressed fallout from if targeting of conservative groups. a second irs official is stepping down. he follows the
it was speculated the cia has used the same wig sup plier over the last 30 years. or maybe it's the same wig. >>> president obama is standing by the justice department's use of secret subpoenas to investigate potential leaks by members of the government. during a news conference yesterday, the president told reporters there must be a balance between the first amendment and national security. >> u.s. national security is dependent on those folks being able to operate with...
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you can't have lots of people around, especially if you're protecting or covering a cia facility. lots of factors here. do you think there was any way to have protected him short of him not having gone to benghazi that day? >> yes, i believe there was, and i in our report listed the shortcomings that may well have helped in that regard. this is only a guess. chris was a wonderful ambassador. chris worked for me for two years. i admired his work. he had absolutely the right concept. americans need to get out and talk to people and understand what things are happening in these countries overseas. >> yeah, i was a peace corps volunteer, too, and i think it's wonderful when these guys and women become diplomats because they don't hide in the compound and eat hamburgers and watch super bowls. they get out and meet people. you know what i mean. he wasn't a striped pants guy. i've got david corn here of "mother jones." he and i were talking, mr. ambassador. >> i have a question for you, mr. ambassador. you put out a thorough report. unclassified version. there was also a classified versi
you can't have lots of people around, especially if you're protecting or covering a cia facility. lots of factors here. do you think there was any way to have protected him short of him not having gone to benghazi that day? >> yes, i believe there was, and i in our report listed the shortcomings that may well have helped in that regard. this is only a guess. chris was a wonderful ambassador. chris worked for me for two years. i admired his work. he had absolutely the right concept....
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story from may 2012 that appeared to contain leaked details about a cia operation in yemen that stopped an al qaeda plot. law enforcement officials were trying to find out who leaked that information. they obtained the records from more than 20 phone lines of a.p. offices and journalists without notice. the a.p. calls it at unprecedented intrusion. today attorney general holder said he had recused himself from the case before the records were ever seized. >> i testified, i guess, back in june 2012 that i'd been interviewed by the fbi in connection with this -- with this matter. and to avoid a potential -- the appearance of a potential conflict of interest and to make sure that the investigation was seen as independent, i recused myself from this matter. >> since then the leak investigation has been conducted by the fbi under the direction of the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia and the supervision of the deputy attorney general. attorney general holder. but that hasn't stopped the gop from going extreme. the rnc chairman said, quote, attorney general eric holder has trampled o
story from may 2012 that appeared to contain leaked details about a cia operation in yemen that stopped an al qaeda plot. law enforcement officials were trying to find out who leaked that information. they obtained the records from more than 20 phone lines of a.p. offices and journalists without notice. the a.p. calls it at unprecedented intrusion. today attorney general holder said he had recused himself from the case before the records were ever seized. >> i testified, i guess, back in...
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allegedly trying to recruit a russian for the cia. in a scene right out of the cold war, 29-year-old ryan fogle, a low-level diplomat, allegedly caught with a spy's tool kit, wigs, sunglasses, maps, money. even a letter offering his russian contact up to $1 million a year. quote, to discuss your experience, expertise and cooperation. and instructions for opening a gmail account and address to write. the cia and state department weren't talking. the russians released fogle to the u.s. embassy. he'll probably be sent home. on twitter, the u.s. ambassador michael mcfall had no comment. >> a global terrorist network. >> reporter: at washington's popular spy museum, a former cia spy says it happens all the time. >> even the disguise material, which people have sort of charteled about, i've used disguise. so even though it may look sort of corny or sixth grade to people, it it can work. >> reporter: the russians call the incident provocative. but u.s. officials don't think it will set back efforts to improve relationed blamed by many for th
allegedly trying to recruit a russian for the cia. in a scene right out of the cold war, 29-year-old ryan fogle, a low-level diplomat, allegedly caught with a spy's tool kit, wigs, sunglasses, maps, money. even a letter offering his russian contact up to $1 million a year. quote, to discuss your experience, expertise and cooperation. and instructions for opening a gmail account and address to write. the cia and state department weren't talking. the russians released fogle to the u.s. embassy....